For chutzpa, you've got to hand the prize to Governor RONALD DION DeSANTIS.
Proclaiming Florida as a "free" state, DeSANTIS pours on the repression, oppression and hate for First Amendment protected activity.
Seeking to rein in Florida State Capitol protests using pompous pretexts, DeSANTIS's arachnid apparthicks would silence discussion and debate in our corrupt State Capitol. As Tacitus said of the sack of Carthage, "they created a desert and they called it peace."
Such smarmy unAmerican satraps. Ipse dixit, they can't fix it.
Their latest designated javelin catcher is a registered Democrat, working for the Department of Management Services as an Assistant General Counsel WHITNEY REBECCA McGINN. What is wrong with her?Does 2011 FSU law graduate WHITNEY REBECCA McGINN need to be "sent back to law school for retreading?" {That was a bon mot of my mentor, the late Nahum Litt, the late former Chief Judge of the U.S. Department of Labor (USDOL) and Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) -- it's what Chief Judge Litt said of a Harvard-educated General Counsel at the Civil Aeronautics Board, an apparatchik proposing to violate airlines' constitutional rights.}
JFK said, "There are three things in life that are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are incomprehensible, so we do what we can with the third." We are laughing at DMS, McGINN and DeSANTIS, secure in the knowledge that our federal courts will likely overturn this oppressive proposal if it ever becomes final.
From Tallahassee Democrat:
State looks to limit protests at Capitol with rules to protect children from 'harmful materials'
James CallTallahassee DemocratFlorida officials may get new tools to silence dissent and prevent demonstrations at the State Capitol under new freedom of speech rules proposed by the Department of Management Services, the agency that serves as the state's property manager.
DMS wants to empower law enforcement to remove individuals they think may prove disruptive from traditional public forum arenas — such as the fourth floor rotunda separating the Florida House and Senate chambers, and the Capitol Courtyard.
The Florida ACLU warns, as currently written, the proposed rules are a how-to guide to chill political speech.
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Florida officials may get new tools to silence dissent and prevent demonstrations at the State Capitol under new freedom of speech rules proposed by the Department of Management Services, the agency that serves as the state's property manager.
DMS wants to empower law enforcement to remove individuals they think may prove disruptive from traditional public forum arenas — such as the fourth floor rotunda separating the Florida House and Senate chambers, and the Capitol Courtyard.
The Florida ACLU warns, as currently written, the proposed rules are a how-to guide to chill political speech.
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New rules would have prohibited past Capitol protests
The proposed rewrite states that, "Because the Capitol Complex is often a destination for children learning about their State government," individuals can be removed from the premises and charged with trespassing when law enforcement believes:
- Displays and sounds are gratuitous and indecent,
- Material arouses prurient interests,
- They likely will create disturbances or unusual noise,
- Their behavior will create a hazard or disruption to performance of official duties.
The proposal would have enabled officials to block 2022 protesters from gathering outside of the House and Senate Chambers to chant "gay, gay, gay," while lawmakers arrived to debate an education bill, and pranksters who celebrated the end of session by littering the rotunda with DeSantis dollars to highlight corporate tax cuts lawmakers approved.
The Legislature Joint Administrative Procedures Committee, made up of five senators and seven representatives, oversees how executive branch agencies exercise the authority lawmakers have delegated to them.
It sought clarification of what DMS was trying to do with changes to Rule 60H-6.008.
“... for example, a demonstration on the steps of the Old Capitol could be forced to disband if someone adjudged that the activity was disrupting the functions of employees in the Capitol. Is this what was intended?” Sharon Jones, the committee's chief attorney asked DMS in a letter dated Oct. 24.
In responding, DMS assistant General Counsel Rebecca McGinn assured Jones the proposed limits and prohibitions on speech did not infringe on any constitutional rights because the Capitol grounds are “limited public forums,” where restrictions on speech is permitted.
McGinn added the rule changes were needed to shield school children from obscene or harmful materials.
“Children frequently visit and tour the Capitol Complex grounds, particularly the Rotunda and Historic Capitol. The restrictions on indecent materials serve the compelling state interest of protecting minors,” wrote McGinn.
The proposed rewrite states that, "Because the Capitol Complex is often a destination for children learning about their State government," individuals can be removed from the premises and charged with trespassing when law enforcement believes:
- Displays and sounds are gratuitous and indecent,
- Material arouses prurient interests,
- They likely will create disturbances or unusual noise,
- Their behavior will create a hazard or disruption to performance of official duties.
The proposal would have enabled officials to block 2022 protesters from gathering outside of the House and Senate Chambers to chant "gay, gay, gay," while lawmakers arrived to debate an education bill, and pranksters who celebrated the end of session by littering the rotunda with DeSantis dollars to highlight corporate tax cuts lawmakers approved.
The Legislature Joint Administrative Procedures Committee, made up of five senators and seven representatives, oversees how executive branch agencies exercise the authority lawmakers have delegated to them.
It sought clarification of what DMS was trying to do with changes to Rule 60H-6.008.
“... for example, a demonstration on the steps of the Old Capitol could be forced to disband if someone adjudged that the activity was disrupting the functions of employees in the Capitol. Is this what was intended?” Sharon Jones, the committee's chief attorney asked DMS in a letter dated Oct. 24.
In responding, DMS assistant General Counsel Rebecca McGinn assured Jones the proposed limits and prohibitions on speech did not infringe on any constitutional rights because the Capitol grounds are “limited public forums,” where restrictions on speech is permitted.
McGinn added the rule changes were needed to shield school children from obscene or harmful materials.
“Children frequently visit and tour the Capitol Complex grounds, particularly the Rotunda and Historic Capitol. The restrictions on indecent materials serve the compelling state interest of protecting minors,” wrote McGinn.
Protecting Florida lawmakers from anything children shouldn't see
When asked by the lawmakers' attorney if there was a traditional public forum on the Capitol grounds not visited by children, DMS did not respond.
With the Legislature in post-election transition, no lawmaker is currently assigned to the committee and committee staff declined to answer any non-procedural related questions for this article.
Senate President Kathleen Passidomo and Speaker Paul Renner will make appointments to the 12-member committee after last week’s reorganization session.
The language concerns the ACLU, which worries that the new language gives law enforcement the ability to remove individuals they think may become disruptive.
The First Amendment rights group has 180,000 members in Florida.
When asked by the lawmakers' attorney if there was a traditional public forum on the Capitol grounds not visited by children, DMS did not respond.
With the Legislature in post-election transition, no lawmaker is currently assigned to the committee and committee staff declined to answer any non-procedural related questions for this article.
Senate President Kathleen Passidomo and Speaker Paul Renner will make appointments to the 12-member committee after last week’s reorganization session.
The language concerns the ACLU, which worries that the new language gives law enforcement the ability to remove individuals they think may become disruptive.
The First Amendment rights group has 180,000 members in Florida.
What will be allowed at the Florida Capitol? 'No average person" could figure it out
They find the proposal so poorly written that their attorneys believe no average person will be able to figure out what behavior is permissible and where, when they want to petition the seat of government.
“It’ll be on the Capitol Police and those enforcing the rules to make the determination,” said Kara Gross, legislative director and senior policy counsel of ACLU Florida.
"And they will have the unbridled discretion to determine which speech is permissible and to remove people if they think (protestors) might be disruptive in the future," said Gross.
Gross recites a list of Florida protests that are part of Capitol lore which a new rule 60H could have been used to prevent.
They include 1960s protests against segregation, memorialized on the sidewalk along Pensacola Street, across from the Capitol, along with:
- 2013 Dream Defenders month-long sit-in against the Stand Your Ground law,
- 2018 demonstration by high school students that filled hallways and committee rooms to protest gun violence,
- 2022 abortion right supporters and anti-vaxers protests of government restrictions.
“The right to protest and criticize government is crucial to a functioning democracy and has historically and recently been exercised to bring about meaningful change to Florida,” the ACLU's Gross wrote to DMS Secretary Pedro Allende.
DMS did not respond to requests for comment for this article.
They find the proposal so poorly written that their attorneys believe no average person will be able to figure out what behavior is permissible and where, when they want to petition the seat of government.
“It’ll be on the Capitol Police and those enforcing the rules to make the determination,” said Kara Gross, legislative director and senior policy counsel of ACLU Florida.
"And they will have the unbridled discretion to determine which speech is permissible and to remove people if they think (protestors) might be disruptive in the future," said Gross.
Gross recites a list of Florida protests that are part of Capitol lore which a new rule 60H could have been used to prevent.
They include 1960s protests against segregation, memorialized on the sidewalk along Pensacola Street, across from the Capitol, along with:
- 2013 Dream Defenders month-long sit-in against the Stand Your Ground law,
- 2018 demonstration by high school students that filled hallways and committee rooms to protest gun violence,
- 2022 abortion right supporters and anti-vaxers protests of government restrictions.
“The right to protest and criticize government is crucial to a functioning democracy and has historically and recently been exercised to bring about meaningful change to Florida,” the ACLU's Gross wrote to DMS Secretary Pedro Allende.
DMS did not respond to requests for comment for this article.
New limitations on rallies, demonstrations could go into effect in early 2023
The agency has a Jan. 16 deadline to file a request for a committee of lawmakers to certify to the Department of State all requirements for rule adoption have been met.
If DMS makes the filing, the rule goes into effect 20 days after the state receives certification.
Meanwhile, the ACLU seeks to delay implementation with a request for DMS to schedule a public hearing and rewrite the proposal.
Such a move would also open up an additional 45-day window for public comment.
The group finds DMS' use of terms such as “likely to impede or disrupt,” or “create loud or unusual noise,” provide officials with unconstitutional authority to remove people from the Capitol.
“This is part of a larger concerted effort we’ve seen over the past couple of years to censor speech, that those in power don’t want to hear,” said Gross.
DMS has yet to respond to the ACLU request for a hearing.
James Call is a member of the USA TODAY NETWORK-Florida Capital Bureau. He can be reached at jcall@tallahassee.com. Follow on him Twitter: @CallTallahassee
The agency has a Jan. 16 deadline to file a request for a committee of lawmakers to certify to the Department of State all requirements for rule adoption have been met.
If DMS makes the filing, the rule goes into effect 20 days after the state receives certification.
Meanwhile, the ACLU seeks to delay implementation with a request for DMS to schedule a public hearing and rewrite the proposal.
Such a move would also open up an additional 45-day window for public comment.
The group finds DMS' use of terms such as “likely to impede or disrupt,” or “create loud or unusual noise,” provide officials with unconstitutional authority to remove people from the Capitol.
“This is part of a larger concerted effort we’ve seen over the past couple of years to censor speech, that those in power don’t want to hear,” said Gross.
DMS has yet to respond to the ACLU request for a hearing.
James Call is a member of the USA TODAY NETWORK-Florida Capital Bureau. He can be reached at jcall@tallahassee.com. Follow on him Twitter: @CallTallahassee
Freedom my ass. Banning books, banning ideology that isn't religious, banning criticism of the USA, enhanced criminal penalties and longer and longer sentences, banning gay pride, banning protests, and authorizing drones to be flown over protests. Just look at the Florida Senate statutes for crime and everything else and you'll see what freedom means to these maniacs. It's freedom for the rich, prosperous, and healthy, freedom t-shirts and right wing propaganda for everyone else. It's a gd right wing police state!!!
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