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Tuesday, January 09, 2024
Trump warns of ‘bedlam,’ declines to rule out violence after court hearing (WaPo)
Who among us still supports DONALD JOHN TRUMP? This tedious termagant Tinpot Napoleon is supported by fascists and insurrectionists. All real Americans reject his works and pomps. TRUMP CLUB, "repent now, there's still time," as Senator Robert Kennedy wrote to Senator James O. Eastland (D-Miss.) in a book inscription. Pray for them. From The Washington Post:
Trump warns of ‘bedlam,’ declines to rule out violence after court hearing
The former president spoke after his lawyers argued he should be immune from prosecution for trying to overturn the 2020 election
Former president Donald Trump speaks to the media at the Waldorf Astoria following his appearance in U.S. District Court in D.C. on Tuesday. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
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Republican polling leader Donald Trump on Tuesday threatened unrest if the criminal charges against him cause him to lose the 2024 election.
Speaking to reporters after an appeals court hearing in which Trump’s lawyers said he should be immune from prosecution for trying to overturn the 2020 election, Trump claimed without evidence that he was being prosecuted because of polls showing him leading President Biden. He warned that if the charges succeed in damaging his candidacy, the result would be “bedlam.”
Trump’s comments came three days after the third anniversary of his supporters’ attack on the U.S. Capitol, inspired by Trump’s false insistence that the 2020 election was stolen. Over the years, Trump has increasingly defended the riot and embraced people charged in the attack. On Saturday he called them “hostages” and demanded their release.
Trump: Presidents ‘have to have immunity’
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On Jan. 9, former president Donald Trump doubled down on his assertion of absolute immunity from criminal prosecution over the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack. (Video: The Washington Post)
His repeated evasions of ruling out political violence come amid a rising menace of threats and attacks throughout American politics. Biden on Friday condemned Trump for refusing to reject violence.
“Trump won’t do what an American president must do; he refuses to denounce political violence,” Biden said. “So hear me clearly, I will say what Donald Trump won’t: Political violence is never acceptable in the United States — never, never, never. It has no place in the democracy. None.”
The specter of violencealso came up during the court argument itself. One of the three judges on the panel, Florence Y. Pan, asked, “Could a president order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival?” D. John Sauer, a lawyer for Trump, said a president could be prosecuted for such an action only if Congress first impeached and convicted him.
The lawyer representing special counsel Jack Smith argued that Trump’s view of immunity would mean an “extraordinarily frightening future.”
If that’s the case, Justice Department lawyer James Pearce asked, “what kind of world are we living in?”
Trump defended his lawyer’s arguments in his own remarks.
“As a president, you have to have immunity,” he said. “If it’s during the time [in office], you have absolute immunity.”
Without immunity, Trump said, Biden or former president Barack Obama could be prosecuted for actions as president such as the 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal, border policy changes or drone strikes. Trump has repeatedly threatened to retaliate by prosecuting Biden and his family if he returns to office.
The lawyer representing special counsel Jack Smith argued that Trump’s view of immunity would mean an “extraordinarily frightening future.”
If that’s the case, Justice Department lawyer James Pearce asked, “what kind of world are we living in?”
Trump defended his lawyer’s arguments in his own remarks.
“As a president, you have to have immunity,” he said. “If it’s during the time [in office], you have absolute immunity.”
Without immunity, Trump said, Biden or former president Barack Obama could be prosecuted for actions as president such as the 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal, border policy changes or drone strikes. Trump has repeatedly threatened to retaliate by prosecuting Biden and his family if he returns to office.
“Joe would be ripe for indictment,” Trump said in a video posted to social media late Monday. “… He has to be careful because that can happen to him also.”
In his remarks Tuesday, Trump repeated a years-old allegation that Biden, as vice president, withheld $1 billion in U.S. aid to Ukraine to pressure the country to remove a prosecutor who was investigating a company whose board included Biden’s son Hunter. In reality, Joe Biden leveraged the aid to push out the prosecutor because he wasn’t aggressively pursuing corruption.
Trump also repeated false claims about the 2020 election, and afterward an aide passed out copies of a report that he published online last week and his lawyers cited in a court filing. The report contained allegations that were not new and had already been disproved.
Trump’s presence in court on Tuesday was voluntary, and advisers said he chose to attend because he believes he gets better treatment from the legal system and better media coverage when he shows up in person. People close to the former president also said he wanted to go on offense against Smith, part of his campaign’s efforts to portray the charges as political.
The appeals court will determine whether Trump’s trial can proceed in March as scheduled, as his legal team tries to delay the case and the three others he’s facing until after the November election. If Trump loses the appeal, he is likely to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, which has already agreed to review whether states can disqualify Trump from appearing on primary ballots under the 14th Amendment’s ban on government officials who “engaged in insurrection.”
The Smith indictment does not accuse Trump of inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, riot but alleges that he and co-conspirators tried to exploit the violence to delay the formal certification of Trump’s electoral defeat.
The case: The special counsel’s office has been investigating whether Trump or those close to him violated the law by interfering with the lawful transfer of power after the 2020 presidential election or with Congress’s confirmation of the results on Jan. 6, 2021. It is one of several ongoing investigations involving Trump.
Isaac Arnsdorf is a national political reporter for The Washington Post who covers former president Donald Trump, the “Make America Great Again” political movement and the Republican Party. Twitter
Not too many people going to jail over that moron anymore. He's sadly mistaken and he will have to pay for his crime spree regardless of riots and arrests. The fascists will have to get over it.
Not too many people going to jail over that moron anymore. He's sadly mistaken and he will have to pay for his crime spree regardless of riots and arrests. The fascists will have to get over it.
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